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title: "AI researchers debate how close we are to recursive self-improvement"
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published_at: "2026-09-11T21:35:29.000Z"
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summary: "“We're nowhere near the ceiling.”"
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# AI researchers debate how close we are to recursive self\-improvement

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**Published:** 2026-09-11T21:35:29.000Z
**Category:** Research
**Topics:** llm, reasoning, agi, recursive\-self\-improvement, debate, research

## Summary

“We're nowhere near the ceiling\.”

## Sources

- [Story source](<https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/john-beren-charlie>)
- [Discussion](<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49665711>)